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		<title>By: teri</title>
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		<dc:creator>teri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, there is that poor fool somewhere out there that would fall for this and ship that rig out of their own pocket.

The way the paypal works is sellers get paid first, and then they ship.

The way the SCAM works is the seller gets paid first, ships the item, but the buyer is using a bogus credit card that gives the seller money up front, then screws them three weeks later when paypal discovers it&#039;s a crap credit card.

The cleverness of criminals in this world is certainly on the downslide. This guy must be a noob...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, there is that poor fool somewhere out there that would fall for this and ship that rig out of their own pocket.</p>
<p>The way the paypal works is sellers get paid first, and then they ship.</p>
<p>The way the SCAM works is the seller gets paid first, ships the item, but the buyer is using a bogus credit card that gives the seller money up front, then screws them three weeks later when paypal discovers it&#8217;s a crap credit card.</p>
<p>The cleverness of criminals in this world is certainly on the downslide. This guy must be a noob&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dyan Gunnlaugson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dyan Gunnlaugson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am selling an El Camino through Craigslist.  I just had a guy with 2 names???  want to purchase my car and have it shipped to the UK????  He wanted it paid through PayPal and where Paypal would release his money to me after delivery.  Come on buddy . . . that&#039;s a bit of a scam stretch to have that ridiculously heavy car shipped to the UK from Canada!  He went by both Mike Tommy and Mike Terry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am selling an El Camino through Craigslist.  I just had a guy with 2 names???  want to purchase my car and have it shipped to the UK????  He wanted it paid through PayPal and where Paypal would release his money to me after delivery.  Come on buddy . . . that&#8217;s a bit of a scam stretch to have that ridiculously heavy car shipped to the UK from Canada!  He went by both Mike Tommy and Mike Terry.</p>
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		<title>By: teri</title>
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		<dc:creator>teri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my, say Buh-bye!  

Just the standard Nigerian poor grammar is the biggest tip-off.  

Then he calls it a &#039;product&#039; instead of what the item is, a router. That is so he can send out the email multiple times and never have to edit it.

Finally, he could buy a router from China for a normal price and get it to his son more quickly, **IF** he had a legitimate credit card/bank account.

Pry him off, tell him you will not ship offshore.

Good call calvin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my, say Buh-bye!  </p>
<p>Just the standard Nigerian poor grammar is the biggest tip-off.  </p>
<p>Then he calls it a &#8216;product&#8217; instead of what the item is, a router. That is so he can send out the email multiple times and never have to edit it.</p>
<p>Finally, he could buy a router from China for a normal price and get it to his son more quickly, **IF** he had a legitimate credit card/bank account.</p>
<p>Pry him off, tell him you will not ship offshore.</p>
<p>Good call calvin!</p>
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		<title>By: calvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>calvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think i&#039;m being scammed as well. This was the email that i received from a buyer from US for just a wireless router. That itself got me thinking why would a person pay so much for delivery charges for such a common item.

Mr. Steve Cole to sale-mbq7p-158.
show details Feb 10 (1 day ago)
** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid:  wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info:  http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

I view this beautiful product and i want to buy it for my son ....so i
want you to tell me the cost of the product  because my son need it
urgent. so i want you to mail  me fast as soon as possible ..

Regards.

Mr. Steve Cole to me
show details 10:01 PM (23 hours ago)
  Hello, Thanks for the mail and i will like to tell you that Mr
Steve Cole is my Name from U.S.A and i will like you to go ahead and
calculate the total cost of the item including the shipping cost
through POST OFFICE to my Son Address for is programmed in college and
send me the information below for the transfer to be made fully. i
want you to give me the total cost,and get me back how many product
you have for sale,

Here is the Information Needed For Payment:
Account Holder Name......
Account Number............
Bank Name..............
Bank Address............
Country................
your mail..............
Item Name.............
Total Cost................

This is the shipping address:
Name :    David Sola
Address:  No 8 Ago Ilorin Street Mokola
City:     Ibadan
State:    Oyo

Get back to me as soon as possible.

Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think i&#8217;m being scammed as well. This was the email that i received from a buyer from US for just a wireless router. That itself got me thinking why would a person pay so much for delivery charges for such a common item.</p>
<p>Mr. Steve Cole to sale-mbq7p-158.<br />
show details Feb 10 (1 day ago)<br />
** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY &#8212; AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY<br />
** Avoid:  wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home<br />
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping<br />
** More Info:  <a href="http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html</a></p>
<p>I view this beautiful product and i want to buy it for my son &#8230;.so i<br />
want you to tell me the cost of the product  because my son need it<br />
urgent. so i want you to mail  me fast as soon as possible ..</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
<p>Mr. Steve Cole to me<br />
show details 10:01 PM (23 hours ago)<br />
  Hello, Thanks for the mail and i will like to tell you that Mr<br />
Steve Cole is my Name from U.S.A and i will like you to go ahead and<br />
calculate the total cost of the item including the shipping cost<br />
through POST OFFICE to my Son Address for is programmed in college and<br />
send me the information below for the transfer to be made fully. i<br />
want you to give me the total cost,and get me back how many product<br />
you have for sale,</p>
<p>Here is the Information Needed For Payment:<br />
Account Holder Name&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Account Number&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Bank Name&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Bank Address&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Country&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
your mail&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Item Name&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Total Cost&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>This is the shipping address:<br />
Name :    David Sola<br />
Address:  No 8 Ago Ilorin Street Mokola<br />
City:     Ibadan<br />
State:    Oyo</p>
<p>Get back to me as soon as possible.</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: teri</title>
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		<dc:creator>teri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maz, are you advising that th &#039;john alexandra&#039; information is a fraudulent seller?  If so, thanks for the tip!

Linda - this is a great site, isn&#039;t it?  It&#039;s not mine but I get a smile when I see postings like yours of people saved from getting scammed.  I think jake billo keeps a regular watch here too - thanks to him again for giving people this information and a forum for others to find!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maz, are you advising that th &#8216;john alexandra&#8217; information is a fraudulent seller?  If so, thanks for the tip!</p>
<p>Linda &#8211; this is a great site, isn&#8217;t it?  It&#8217;s not mine but I get a smile when I see postings like yours of people saved from getting scammed.  I think jake billo keeps a regular watch here too &#8211; thanks to him again for giving people this information and a forum for others to find!!</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This helped me from being scammed. Same thing guy offered to buy my pc for sale on Craigslist. Demanded I ship it in order for paypal to release the funds to me. I actually got 3 different ppl that tried that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This helped me from being scammed. Same thing guy offered to buy my pc for sale on Craigslist. Demanded I ship it in order for paypal to release the funds to me. I actually got 3 different ppl that tried that.</p>
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		<title>By: Maz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stone Ferry 

Name:John Alexandra
Address:No11,Bateye St,Lodge Oke Ado
State : Oyo State
City? : Ibadan
Country:Nigeria
Zip code:23402</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stone Ferry </p>
<p>Name:John Alexandra<br />
Address:No11,Bateye St,Lodge Oke Ado<br />
State : Oyo State<br />
City? : Ibadan<br />
Country:Nigeria<br />
Zip code:23402</p>
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		<title>By: terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh wow.  Yeah, you cash it, send him the difference and then the cheque goes rubber and your account goes negative - plus you&#039;re out the saddle and the shipping.  I&#039;ve sold several english saddles through ebay, and bought my saddles the same way.  Gosh, feedback is important and very useful to see their payment history, also to see if they have a history of selling a particular item (with saddles, I look to see if they&#039;ve sold other horse gear, or bought it either from private sellers or known equine stores).

Don&#039;t ever take a cheque outside of ebay. Personally I don&#039;t take anything BUT paypal through ebay, but only because of the SELLER/BUYER protection paypal provides on most auctions there.  I also only ship to USA/Canada, and only buy from USA/CANADA/England/Germany where the sellers have sterling feedback.

Well done for you arhorsemom, on getting a red flag in the first place.  You were wise to say it was no longer available, and sever any hope of further contact with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh wow.  Yeah, you cash it, send him the difference and then the cheque goes rubber and your account goes negative &#8211; plus you&#8217;re out the saddle and the shipping.  I&#8217;ve sold several english saddles through ebay, and bought my saddles the same way.  Gosh, feedback is important and very useful to see their payment history, also to see if they have a history of selling a particular item (with saddles, I look to see if they&#8217;ve sold other horse gear, or bought it either from private sellers or known equine stores).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ever take a cheque outside of ebay. Personally I don&#8217;t take anything BUT paypal through ebay, but only because of the SELLER/BUYER protection paypal provides on most auctions there.  I also only ship to USA/Canada, and only buy from USA/CANADA/England/Germany where the sellers have sterling feedback.</p>
<p>Well done for you arhorsemom, on getting a red flag in the first place.  You were wise to say it was no longer available, and sever any hope of further contact with him.</p>
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		<title>By: arhorsemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>arhorsemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had someone named Larry Moore using several gmail addresses, one being katty.weatherly04@gmail.com contact me about a saddle I was selling. He supposedly sent a check and then later notified me that his secretary &quot;accidently&quot; wrote the check for $2000 instead of the agreed upon $500 and would I cash it and send him the difference via money gram! Red flag!! I notified him the the saddle was no longer for sale and i would return the check upon arrival.I guess he/she was tired of getting yelled at by people who are obviously much smarter than him/her with his paypal scam and thought he would try something new. He also said he was deaf so he couldn&#039;t talk to me directly. hmm What a joke. Thank you for your postings. By the way I am sending a report to www.ic3.gov on the advise of our local hi-tech crimes dept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had someone named Larry Moore using several gmail addresses, one being <a href="mailto:katty.weatherly04@gmail.com">katty.weatherly04@gmail.com</a> contact me about a saddle I was selling. He supposedly sent a check and then later notified me that his secretary &#8220;accidently&#8221; wrote the check for $2000 instead of the agreed upon $500 and would I cash it and send him the difference via money gram! Red flag!! I notified him the the saddle was no longer for sale and i would return the check upon arrival.I guess he/she was tired of getting yelled at by people who are obviously much smarter than him/her with his paypal scam and thought he would try something new. He also said he was deaf so he couldn&#8217;t talk to me directly. hmm What a joke. Thank you for your postings. By the way I am sending a report to <a href="http://www.ic3.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.ic3.gov</a> on the advise of our local hi-tech crimes dept.</p>
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		<title>By: teri</title>
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		<dc:creator>teri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have to laugh, right? these people...  he must have 40 family members holed up in a one room flat, and is going to send one or several for your truck - no doubt either with a rubber cheque, or a few bats and lead pipes to rob you.  tell him you&#039;ll meet him at the police station at the front desk so the officers can witness the transaction.  and tell him to bring cash - lol.

no, don&#039;t do any of that.  tell him you don&#039;t deal with agents or shipping and you&#039;d prefer he didn&#039;t contact you again or you will speak to the authorities.

you&#039;d think they&#039;d come up with a new name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have to laugh, right? these people&#8230;  he must have 40 family members holed up in a one room flat, and is going to send one or several for your truck &#8211; no doubt either with a rubber cheque, or a few bats and lead pipes to rob you.  tell him you&#8217;ll meet him at the police station at the front desk so the officers can witness the transaction.  and tell him to bring cash &#8211; lol.</p>
<p>no, don&#8217;t do any of that.  tell him you don&#8217;t deal with agents or shipping and you&#8217;d prefer he didn&#8217;t contact you again or you will speak to the authorities.</p>
<p>you&#8217;d think they&#8217;d come up with a new name.</p>
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