Comments on: Bell launching $30 unlimited data plan for BlackBerry and Windows Mobile http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/ Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:47:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Jonathan http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-12304 Jonathan Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:16:23 +0000 http://jakebillo.com/?p=319#comment-12304 ""Ugh, a family corporate plan sounds like a real mess to provision properly. Glad you got things working out. BES service is something that all Canadian and US carriers charge more for, because RIM in turn charges the carriers for the capability. I didn’t expect it’d be available on the consumer level packages, but it would have been nice if Bell had stepped up to the plate for businesses."" Yah i don’t assume things are going to work with my contract anymore, even on the phone the gentleman i was talking to tried to push me towards canceling my unlimited email and web browser for my phone, i said NO NO NO four times. The sad thing is my boss had to pay 150$ for a license to use bes, and now im stuck having to either switch my contract to get less data for more money simply because im part of a business. I get the feeling with this most recent news, bell is a cheap street lady, and they feel as if business’s can pay a bit more then the consumer. “”Ugh, a family corporate plan sounds like a real mess to provision properly. Glad you got things working out.

BES service is something that all Canadian and US carriers charge more for, because RIM in turn charges the carriers for the capability. I didn’t expect it’d be available on the consumer level packages, but it would have been nice if Bell had stepped up to the plate for businesses.”"

Yah i don’t assume things are going to work with my contract anymore, even on the phone the gentleman i was talking to tried to push me towards canceling my unlimited email and web browser for my phone, i said NO NO NO four times. The sad thing is my boss had to pay 150$ for a license to use bes, and now im stuck having to either switch my contract to get less data for more money simply because im part of a business. I get the feeling with this most recent news, bell is a cheap street lady, and they feel as if business’s can pay a bit more then the consumer.

]]> By: Jake Billo http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-12303 Jake Billo Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:06:42 +0000 http://jakebillo.com/?p=319#comment-12303 Ugh, a family corporate plan sounds like a real mess to provision properly. Glad you got things working out. BES service is something that all Canadian and US carriers charge more for, because RIM in turn charges the carriers for the capability. I didn't expect it'd be available on the consumer level packages, but it would have been nice if Bell had stepped up to the plate for businesses. Ugh, a family corporate plan sounds like a real mess to provision properly. Glad you got things working out.

BES service is something that all Canadian and US carriers charge more for, because RIM in turn charges the carriers for the capability. I didn’t expect it’d be available on the consumer level packages, but it would have been nice if Bell had stepped up to the plate for businesses.

]]> By: Jonathan http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-12302 Jonathan Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:00:00 +0000 http://jakebillo.com/?p=319#comment-12302 I was unable to get my blackberry enterprise server working with this service attached to my contract. I signed up with it before very much was even leaked about it and never saw anything in regards to this. But as i found out when i called Bell(hell) bes service is restricted, no idea why, but its a pain the lower region. If only we could get a legitimate mobile data provider that could provide voice web and mail for a cheap price. By the way to get this service added onto my contract, which is a family corporate plan…go fig, I had to fight for about two weeks. Over those two weeks I was told three times it was going to be added, and on the final occasion I threatened to cancel my contract. So in the end they completly renewed my grandfather plan backdated everything and made it work. Don’t fight the system, take a huge F*88 chunk out of them. I was unable to get my blackberry enterprise server working with this service attached to my contract. I signed up with it before very much was even leaked about it and never saw anything in regards to this. But as i found out when i called Bell(hell) bes service is restricted, no idea why, but its a pain the lower region. If only we could get a legitimate mobile data provider that could provide voice web and mail for a cheap price.

By the way to get this service added onto my contract, which is a family corporate plan…go fig, I had to fight for about two weeks. Over those two weeks I was told three times it was going to be added, and on the final occasion I threatened to cancel my contract. So in the end they completly renewed my grandfather plan backdated everything and made it work.

Don’t fight the system, take a huge F*88 chunk out of them.

]]> By: Dmitry http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-12273 Dmitry Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:07:39 +0000 http://jakebillo.com/?p=319#comment-12273 Thanks for your comments, Jake. That's what I thought as well. I guess the only way they can tell in my case if I start downloading enormous amount of data. But I'm not interested in that, what I'm interested is the user experience (big screen, convenient typing on the keyboard, etc.) which laptop gives me as oppose to the PDA. Thanks for your comments, Jake.
That’s what I thought as well. I guess the only way they can tell in my case if I start downloading enormous amount of data. But I’m not interested in that, what I’m interested is the user experience (big screen, convenient typing on the keyboard, etc.) which laptop gives me as oppose to the PDA.

]]> By: Jake Billo http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-12271 Jake Billo Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:58:31 +0000 http://jakebillo.com/?p=319#comment-12271 I'll preface this by saying that I don't have experience with WM, but from what you're saying, a registry hacked/unlocked ROM phone should have no distinction between on-device and tethered data. Unless Bell is somehow detecting the Connection Sharing status (the device has to enable NAT somehow), in theory you shouldn't have an issue. I guess you could always try it for a month and then claim ignorance if you get hit for large charges. Usually the first massive overage will be credited if you call billing and plead your case. I’ll preface this by saying that I don’t have experience with WM, but from what you’re saying, a registry hacked/unlocked ROM phone should have no distinction between on-device and tethered data.

Unless Bell is somehow detecting the Connection Sharing status (the device has to enable NAT somehow), in theory you shouldn’t have an issue.

I guess you could always try it for a month and then claim ignorance if you get hit for large charges. Usually the first massive overage will be credited if you call billing and plead your case.

]]> By: Dmitry http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-12267 Dmitry Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:10:22 +0000 http://jakebillo.com/?p=319#comment-12267 OK, but what if I have WM, not BB and it has custom ROM (unlocked phone)? In my PDA I have data connection which is always there and it's the same. The only thing I do to tether is that I enable Connection Sharing in the Communication Manager. As I understand that makes my PDA as a gateway/router device and my laptop as a client device. In terms of connecting to the Wireless provider network, nothing has changed at all, as I understand. In that situation how they can tell if it's the PDA downloading data or laptop connected via USB cable to that PDA? OK, but what if I have WM, not BB and it has custom ROM (unlocked phone)?
In my PDA I have data connection which is always there and it’s the same. The only thing I do to tether is that I enable Connection Sharing in the Communication Manager.
As I understand that makes my PDA as a gateway/router device and my laptop as a client device. In terms of connecting to the Wireless provider network, nothing has changed at all, as I understand.
In that situation how they can tell if it’s the PDA downloading data or laptop connected via USB cable to that PDA?

]]> By: Jake Billo http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-12266 Jake Billo Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:34:37 +0000 http://jakebillo.com/?p=319#comment-12266 The current CDMA providers use a different tethering gateway than standard BlackBerry data - I believe Telus' is rim.telusmobility.com for on-device data and 1x.telusmobility.com for tethering. CDMA carriers also can apply more restrictions to their devices at manufacturing; in theory they could get RIM to block tethering at the factory. The current CDMA providers use a different tethering gateway than standard BlackBerry data - I believe Telus’ is rim.telusmobility.com for on-device data and 1x.telusmobility.com for tethering.

CDMA carriers also can apply more restrictions to their devices at manufacturing; in theory they could get RIM to block tethering at the factory.

]]> By: Dmitry http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-12264 Dmitry Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:34:00 +0000 http://jakebillo.com/?p=319#comment-12264 How do they know that I'm tethering? How do they know that I’m tethering?

]]> By: Jake Billo http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-12132 Jake Billo Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:13:19 +0000 http://jakebillo.com/?p=319#comment-12132 I haven't heard confirmation or denial about that. If someone can toss me the PIN of a device that's actually functional on this plan, I can certainly check whether it's registered for the Prosumer billing code (BIS) or E+ (BIS and BES). Alternatively, you could call the Bell data team and ask whoever provisions the devices whether they activate them for Prosumer or Enterprise Plus - if they're familiar with the BlackBerry infrastructure at all, or have authority to activate devices through WebAdmin, they'll be able to tell you. Just going from what I understand, though... there's no present BES plan in Canada that comes in at under $40/month. Rogers' low end packages specifically exclude BES support and I'm not sure what Telus does for theirs. I haven’t heard confirmation or denial about that. If someone can toss me the PIN of a device that’s actually functional on this plan, I can certainly check whether it’s registered for the Prosumer billing code (BIS) or E+ (BIS and BES).

Alternatively, you could call the Bell data team and ask whoever provisions the devices whether they activate them for Prosumer or Enterprise Plus - if they’re familiar with the BlackBerry infrastructure at all, or have authority to activate devices through WebAdmin, they’ll be able to tell you.

Just going from what I understand, though… there’s no present BES plan in Canada that comes in at under $40/month. Rogers’ low end packages specifically exclude BES support and I’m not sure what Telus does for theirs.

]]> By: Curve8330 http://jakebillo.com/bell-launching-30-unlimited-data-plan-for-blackberry-and-windows-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-12131 Curve8330 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:03:03 +0000 http://jakebillo.com/?p=319#comment-12131 I've been told by the Bell support that the $30 DOES include BES support. Have you heard differently? I’ve been told by the Bell support that the $30 DOES include BES support. Have you heard differently?

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